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Post  nsjbill on 5/4/2013, 9:05 pm

So I have a 2013 JKU MOAB Edition Jeep. I have done a few mods to it already and just got the 2.5" Rock Krawler Max Travel Kit installed 5/4/2013! Pictures to follow.

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Post  nsjbill on 5/4/2013, 9:35 pm

What were the names of the alignment places again? One in Tewksbury and I should call Steve's Jeep ?? and ask them where they have their alignments done? I would really like for them to do the alignment with adjusting all of the arms and such so it is done correctly. Not that I don't trust Town Faire Tire but you know...
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Post  Ryan McKee on 5/4/2013, 9:59 pm

Town Fair will NOT touch anything beyond the FRONT tie rod and drag link. Ever. Even with a "4 Wheel Drive" alignment.

Wilmington Transmission in Tewksbury is what Clayton was talking about, and Steve's Jeep Country in Epsom NH will give you the name of the alignment shop they outsource to.


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Post  dongalonga on 5/4/2013, 10:27 pm

Also call Elias4wd. They got my TJ perfect.
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Post  Ryan McKee on 5/4/2013, 11:17 pm

My photos from today:



























































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Post  Mark on 5/5/2013, 8:33 am

It looks alot higher off the ground than it did Friday Bill, LOOKING GOOD
Good work guys. cheers !!

It's official, Bills jeep is no longer a mall crawler,, RIGHT BILL! lol!
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Post  nsjbill on 5/5/2013, 9:51 am

Here are some pics my camera took!

Before from side

Before Passenger Front

Before Angled

Me Learning from the Pros

After Side

After Front (seems a lot taller)


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Post  dongalonga on 5/5/2013, 10:11 am

Looks great!
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Post  nsjbill on 5/5/2013, 10:14 am

I agree! I will give a final review once I get the alignment done. I can tell the difference driving it for sure. Bumps don't throw me all over the place anymore. That could have been tire pressure though. With same tire pressure the new coils and shocks do a much better job. Very smooth ride now.

Oh BTW Ryan and Clayton, I made sure to take it to the car wash last night on the way home to spray out and wash the spots where brake fluid may have touched. I had no idea brake fluid was so caustic to paint etc.
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Post  White Buffalo on 5/5/2013, 10:37 pm

Looks real nice Bill. Bet you can't wait to take it out on the trails. BTW nice pics of the build.
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Post  Andrew Miller on 5/6/2013, 12:13 am

Looks great Bill! Wish i could have been able to make it

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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 7:46 am

I need to get the alignment done and steering back to normal. When I call these places, should I just ask about an alignment? Should I mention I did the suspension and need them to go over everything? Do I need a "4 wheel alignment"?
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Post  Ryan McKee on 5/6/2013, 8:06 am

nsjbill wrote:I need to get the alignment done and steering back to normal. When I call these places, should I just ask about an alignment? Should I mention I did the suspension and need them to go over everything? Do I need a "4 wheel alignment"?

Bill,

As we discussed, it all depends on where you call. Honestly, if the thing drives great on the highway as it is (and you'd know by now, after driving back from Brian's shop) then I would not take the time seeking out a 4 wheel drive alignment from one of the specialty shops listed above. If it's really just a matter of the steering wheel, go to Town Fair/Firestone/Sears, and get an Alignment. If it's one of those typical shops, you do NOT need a "4 wheel drive alignment" as they will literally not touch anything beyond the front tie rod and drag link. You'll be paying extra for no additional service.

Go to Town Fair. Spend $40 and get the front end aligned. Don't budge when they try to sell you a "4 wheel drive" alignment.

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Post  Mark on 5/6/2013, 8:34 am

What Ryan said X2.
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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 8:47 am

mark can you Pm me ur number?
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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 1:25 pm

So it turns out the Toe on the JK was really off. Was 7.69 or something degrees. They corrected everything and my cruise control works again and the steering wheel is straight. Yay for Town Fair Tire. I didn't even have to pay for the alignment!!
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Post  Ryan McKee on 5/6/2013, 1:37 pm

nsjbill wrote:I didn't even have to pay for the alignment!!

Best news all day.

For future reference, toe is measured in inches.

Really glad to hear it's fully functional!

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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 1:41 pm

I have the printout of before and after. I just know the toe was way off! I may re-route the brake lines, at least up front. Mark noticed with the tires turned all the way left the brake line could easily get in between the coil. If hitting a bump hard enough that would squish it. I may just take off the bottom bolt on the shocks, move them to other side and see how that looks.
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Post  dongalonga on 5/6/2013, 3:34 pm

If you haven't had the caster and pinion angle check, you really should. It may feel ok right now, but that can change drastically. No reason to risk damage for a few $$.
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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 3:48 pm

How does the following look to you folks? Seem to be in good shape now?

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Post  nsjbill on 5/6/2013, 7:02 pm

Looking at that diagram, does it make sense for me to just spend the $80 on getting a 4 wheel alignment? Does it look to be respectable settings now after the alignment?
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Post  Mark on 5/6/2013, 7:45 pm

http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-tech/jeep-jk-caster-what-is-it-how-do-i-measure-it-and-how-does-it-affect-my-jeep

http://wayalife.com/showthread.php?3861-Basic-Do-it-Yourself-Jeep-JK-Wrangler-Front-End-Alignment

I really didn't look at this but you can Bill.

From glancing at one of the articles, and your print out,,, your caster is acceptable.
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Post  dongalonga on 5/6/2013, 8:49 pm

I'm guessing with the crew you had they checked the pinion angle correct?

Also, what did you do for exhaust clearance on the front driveshaft?
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Post  Mark on 5/7/2013, 5:42 am

Wasn't there, but the drive shaft angle should take precedence over caster.
He does have adjustable lowers.
Does it have a CV style in front and a Slip Yoke in rear similar to the TJs?
I could check the rear shaft angles for you Bill but I do not have a level flat surface here.
The front is easy to check I can tell you in a minute if it is off.
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Post  nsjbill on 5/7/2013, 8:08 am

What are the Thrust Angle numbers depicted on the diagram? It shows Green at 0.24 degrees after the alignment. I am leaning more and more towards going to the alignment place and having them do a full 4 door alignment... I am getting worried now!
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