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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/16/2014, 9:45 pm

Hey all, I'm Matt and I'm from Weare, NH. I was referred to the site by tusconzj on JeepForum, and I'm one of the moderators on ExploringNH.

I have 3 jeeps. A stock 1997 Grand Cherokee (ZJ) for a winter rig, a 1970 Jeep J-2500 pickup that's a very slow-coming work in progress. And a 1998 Grand Cherokee for a fair-weather daily driver and wheeling rig. The "big jeep" has a 5.5" Long Arm lift, 32x11.5 Pro Comp A/Ts (which I would love to find some 33x10.5s to replace), 3/16" reinforced unibody and a 12,000lb winch. I'm hoping it'll come out of this winter with cut-out rocker rock sliders, and ideally a rear diff truss & skid.

I do a lot of trail work all over southern NH with ExploringNH. Trail cleanups, maintenance, and working as a liaison between the (responsible) off-road community and the town government, snowmobile clubs, and land owners, to try to keep our trails open. I actually got referred over here because I heard you guys were discussing the Class VI roads in Fremont, NH.

I'm always looking for new places to wheel so I'd like to tag along on a ride some time next year if that's cool. The trails/roads in my back yard get old after a while.

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See you all on the trails!
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Post  Mark on 12/17/2014, 8:09 am

Hi Matt, welcome to the club,see you on the trail, in the spring we have a get together bbq , see you there.
Not many of those J model trucks left.
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Post  Tonellin on 12/17/2014, 9:06 am

Welcome

j2500 was the predecessor of the j10 correct? Is the j2500 still a 1/2 ton?

There was just a discussion about heading up and doing a cleanup run...a lot of guys showed interest so hopefully we get a concrete plan to head up there

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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/17/2014, 11:16 am

Tonellin wrote:Welcome

j2500 was the predecessor of the j10 correct? Is the j2500 still a 1/2 ton?

There was just a discussion about heading up and doing a cleanup run...a lot of guys showed interest so hopefully we get a concrete plan to head up there


Yes the J-2500 is a half-ton, 5000lb GVW. In 1974 it was renamed to the J-10. My truck actually was sold to me as a J-10, it has J-10 fenders on it (with the emblems) and the previous owner didn't know the J-10 didn't exist in 1970. I'm having trouble getting the old 232 I6 to run properly and sourcing parts, since I found the engine in it actually came out of a 1969 IH Scout, making it even harder to find parts for. Once everything is caught up on the ZJ, I'm looking at putting a 4.0 from an XJ or YJ into the truck. More reliable, more power, and I'm more familiar with it. The 4.0 will drop right in (shares the same block as the 232), the biggest thing will be all the wiring and modern electronics.

Another pic of the truck...



We had a lot of interest in Shirkin over at ENH too. I approached the towns of Fremont and Raymond about it. 95% of the road is in Fremont but the western end is in Raymond. Fremont said they would love for us to help out but had no way of helping us get rid of the trash. So then I went to Raymond and they never got back to me about using their transfer station. Its worth trying again this year but we may be on our own to find a way to dispose of all the junk.
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Post  Tonellin on 12/17/2014, 11:26 am

ZJ Matt wrote:
Tonellin wrote:Welcome

j2500 was the predecessor of the j10 correct? Is the j2500 still a 1/2 ton?

There was just a discussion about heading up and doing a cleanup run...a lot of guys showed interest so hopefully we get a concrete plan to head up there


Yes the J-2500 is a half-ton, 5000lb GVW. In 1974 it was renamed to the J-10. My truck actually was sold to me as a J-10, it has J-10 fenders on it (with the emblems) and the previous owner didn't know the J-10 didn't exist in 1970. I'm having trouble getting the old 232 I6 to run properly and sourcing parts, since I found the engine in it actually came out of a 1969 IH Scout, making it even harder to find parts for. Once everything is caught up on the ZJ, I'm looking at putting a 4.0 from an XJ or YJ into the truck. More reliable, more power, and I'm more familiar with it. The 4.0 will drop right in (shares the same block as the 232), the biggest thing will be all the wiring and modern electronics.

Another pic of the truck...



We had a lot of interest in Shirkin over at ENH too. I approached the towns of Fremont and Raymond about it. 95% of the road is in Fremont but the western end is in Raymond. Fremont said they would love for us to help out but had no way of helping us get rid of the trash. So then I went to Raymond and they never got back to me about using their transfer station. Its worth trying again this year but we may be on our own to find a way to dispose of all the junk.

I had no idea it didn't exist pre-74 either...looks to be in great shape I'm jealous I'd love to get my hands on something like that for cruising to home depot and stuff on the weekends

Even if we had to haul out the trash it wouldn't be the worst thing...on our last trip to Old Florida Road I had to haul out an XJ gas tank someone just tossed on the side of the trail Mad

It was actually perfectly fine, the sending unit must have went and the guy just swapped in an entirely assembled spare tank. Gave it to my buddy with an XJ and he gladly took it
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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/17/2014, 12:03 pm

Tonellin wrote:

I had no idea it didn't exist pre-74 either...looks to be in great shape I'm jealous I'd love to get my hands on something like that for cruising to home depot and stuff on the weekends

Even if we had to haul out the trash it wouldn't be the worst thing...on our last trip to Old Florida Road I had to haul out an XJ gas tank someone just tossed on the side of the trail Mad

It was actually perfectly fine, the sending unit must have went and the guy just swapped in an entirely assembled spare tank.  Gave it to my buddy with an XJ and he gladly took it

That's my plan for the truck, just to have something old and unique to cruise around in. It's in good shape for the year of it but it's definitely had some body work done to it. It passes the "20 foot test" but if you get up close you can tell that it was a work truck on a farm for 30 years. I think that kind of adds character though.

Not sure if you've been out on Shirkin lately, but I think hauling the trash out ourselves would be the worst thing. There have to be a good couple dump trucks worth and it's a lot of nasty stuff.
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Post  desertzj on 12/17/2014, 12:10 pm

Welcome Matt, Yea our Hooksett run I picked up an acura headlight to haul out with me. if i didn't have a dog in the back would have grabbed some of the crap tires too.

As spring rolls around and you want to organize a clean up, post it up. many of us will be glad to help if we can get up there. And def come to the BBQ, its a good time (even though it rained last year)
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Post  Ryan McKee on 12/17/2014, 12:43 pm

desertzj wrote:
As spring rolls around and you want to organize a clean up, post it up. many of us will be glad to help if we can get up there. And def come to the BBQ, its a good time (even though it rained last year)

BBQ will be wayyyy later this year so the weather isn't complete shit ;-)

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Post  Ryan McKee on 12/17/2014, 12:45 pm

ZJ Matt wrote:I approached the towns of Fremont and Raymond about it. 95% of the road is in Fremont but the western end is in Raymond. Fremont said they would love for us to help out but had no way of helping us get rid of the trash. So then I went to Raymond and they never got back to me about using their transfer station. Its worth trying again this year but we may be on our own to find a way to dispose of all the junk.

I read the article on JF that mentioned the lack of help with the disposal of trash. I've got an 6x10 utility trailer that we could fill up and drag to wherever would take it. We actively clean up whenever possible when on the trail, but if we could get some kind organized clean up day I think that would be great for us.

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Post  desertzj on 12/17/2014, 12:45 pm

Ryan M wrote:
desertzj wrote:
As spring rolls around and you want to organize a clean up, post it up. many of us will be glad to help if we can get up there. And def come to the BBQ, its a good time (even though it rained last year)

BBQ will be wayyyy later this year so the weather isn't complete shit ;-)

I like your style Cool
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Post  dongalonga on 12/17/2014, 5:43 pm

Welcome. Love all of your rigs. Trail cleanup is a great idea for the spring.
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Post  Mark on 12/17/2014, 6:40 pm

There is a bit of trash out there, Especially at the Fremont end. i was out there a few weeks ago.
Everybody should pack out trash that they bring in, dumping it ruins it for everyone.
There are a lot of beer cans and small car parts strewn around out there.
The shooting pit is a disaster.


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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/18/2014, 1:08 am

dongalonga wrote:Welcome. Love all of your rigs. Trail cleanup is a great idea for the spring.

Thanks.  Talked to a buddy of mine about the sliders tonight - sounds like it's a go. I turn wrenches but don't do anything with a welder. Just hit 225k on the big jeep tonight. Got done rebuilding the front axle 2 nights ago and tomorrow it's going back into the garage to replace the transmission output seal. Should've thought to do that when I swapped out the old NP249 transfer case for an NP242.

Sounds like we should start a new thread about the Shirkin cleanup.
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Post  Mark on 12/18/2014, 10:38 am

Matt, What's the reason the 232 won't run correctly, carburetor?? or points ignition?
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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/18/2014, 12:29 pm

Mark wrote:Matt, What's the reason the 232 won't run correctly, carburetor?? or points ignition?

Haven't gotten too far into it. But I'm thinking the carb. Someone installed a Holley inline electric fuel pump after the stock mechanical pump (I know, the electric should be within a few feet of the tank), then a manual fuel pressure regulator after that. I found that the FPR was plugged so I bypassed that. Now I'm getting fuel to the carb. If I pull on the throttle cable at the carb until it stops pumping fuel, then try starting it, it will run until that fuel burns off and then it dies and I have to pump the throttle cable again to get it to start again.

It's the first carbureted vehicle I've owned so I know nothing about carbs. I like my fuel injection Smile

That and all the trying to start it, I wiped out my second starter. And trying to find a starter for a '69 Scout isn't easy. This time I just bought a new starter drive and I'm going to try rebuilding the starter.

Unfortunately the J-Truck gets the last priority. I need to make sure the two ZJs stay in top shape, since they're what I depend on every day.
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Post  Mark on 12/18/2014, 1:59 pm

It almost sounds like a clogged idle circuit.
When some of the old mechanical fuel pumps went bad they pumped gas into the crank case and wiped out the bearings etc.
Some electric pumps are designed to run a distance from the tank like up by the carburetor, some need to be close to the tank.
It's best to run one or the other but not both of them.
A new stock mechanical would have about 3 to 5 lbs +/- fuel pressure.
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Post  Andrew Miller on 12/20/2014, 10:46 pm

Welcome to the club! Definitely on board with trail clean up in the spring!

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Post  ZJ Matt on 12/21/2014, 7:42 pm

Mark wrote:It almost sounds like a clogged idle circuit.
When some of the old mechanical fuel pumps went bad they pumped gas into the crank case and wiped out the bearings etc.
Some electric pumps are designed to run a distance from the tank like up by the carburetor, some need to be close to the tank.
It's best to run one or the other but not both of them.
A new stock mechanical would have about 3 to 5 lbs +/- fuel pressure.

Yeah I'm not sure why the previous owner (or owner before him) put the electric in. When I changed the oil just after getting the truck home, there was a ton of gas in it.

A stock mechanical for a '69 Scout isn't easy to come by.
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Post  Mark on 12/22/2014, 6:57 am

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