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Post  kvesi122 on 5/18/2013, 5:40 pm

Would anybody be available on Wed to help lift the tub off? I was try to do it with an engine hoist today but it wasn't lifting the tub. I couldn't get the tub to lift straight up. All 8 body mount bolts have been removed along with all the levers inside the tub and the steering shaft.

Please let me know! I could really use the help.

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Post  Mark on 5/18/2013, 6:25 pm


There are 11 body mount bolts that hold the body on a TJ frame!!
5 on each side and 1 at grille

This is the amount and location of body mounts per side!

3 mounts under seating area each side.
1 at upper rear shock cross member each side.
1 at the rear corner each side .
1 only in radiator support

Total of 11,
don't forget to disconnect fuel tank filler tube from body and the rear end vent hose inside left rear quarter panel.
disconnect clutch slave cylinder at bell housing if standard trans.
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/18/2013, 7:07 pm

What the hell how do you get at the ones near the rear crossmember? There's no room to get a breaker bar in by the gas tank.
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Post  Mark on 5/18/2013, 7:43 pm

You can do it. I did mine but I don't remember .
Just thought that I would save you some aggrivation, it would have never came off with out removing the other two bolts.
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/18/2013, 7:50 pm

Woooohooooo!!! Thank you so much for that haha. The tub lifts right off. I'll try to find someone tomorrow to helps balance the tub while I push the frame out. Thank you so much man I really appreciate it.
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Post  Mark on 5/18/2013, 8:05 pm

Good luck with it, I hope things go well for you.
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/18/2013, 10:22 pm

Here's the tub all hooked up to be pulled tomorrow. I did a pilot lift to be sure it would come off.





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Post  kvesi122 on 5/27/2013, 9:45 pm

Big news!!! The tub is off. The control arms are off the rear axle and I'm disconnecting the driveshaft tomorrow.









Crusty frame near control arm brackets. Still need a picture of the rips on the bottom.

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Post  CrawlingForward on 5/28/2013, 11:52 am

Nice! The worse of it is over.

Now it's just reversing the process, right?

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Post  kvesi122 on 5/28/2013, 4:05 pm

For the most part. Lots of cleanup and painting to do along the way.
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Post  Mark on 5/28/2013, 4:24 pm

Looks like you are getting somewhere, keep up the good work ! cheers
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/28/2013, 10:56 pm

Picked up a set of motor mounts on jeepforum for $80 shipped.
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Post  Mark on 5/29/2013, 6:46 am

What brand motor mounts, factory style or performance?
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/29/2013, 10:33 am

Brown Dog. They aren't the 1" ones. Just the stock height. Couldn't resist for the price.
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/29/2013, 9:00 pm

Rear axle is finally out! Took some time with a torch to heat the lower shock bolts.

The track bar bolt was the biggest PITA so far. Haven't had to cut any bolts yet but this one broke the ice. My friend came over with an oscillating cutting tool and a sawzall to cut the bolt out. Took about an hr of cutting and another half hr of pushing the axle around to pull it out.



And the obligatory frame rust picture. Get the eye bleach ready!



Back end is held up with stumps right now. Didn't want to leave any jack stands out in the rain tonight.

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Post  Mark on 5/29/2013, 9:48 pm

Thats a good price for the motor mounts.
Boy that frame doesn't look too great!
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Post  kvesi122 on 5/29/2013, 11:02 pm

I can't believe the PO was driving around with it like that. Granted he hadn't "tested" the frame with a hammer either.
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Post  kvesi122 on 6/12/2013, 7:58 pm

Sorry for the late update. I began disassembling the rear axle today for cleaning and painting. The jeep was put on hold for a week because I started a new internship. I didn't like the work that I was doing and the plans that they had for the rest of the summer so I ended up leaving. Had to commute 1.5 hrs each way so it wasn't the ideal situation. Needless to say I found another job 10 mins away that pays 15/hr for IT work so I'm happy Smile 

I'll post a few pics after the rain tomorrow and Friday. If any of you guys want to help out with the engine and tranny removal next week let me know. I'm trying to figure out where to put it so that I can strip the motor and clean it. Also replacing the clutch with a Luk clutch.
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Post  kvesi122 on 6/14/2013, 10:21 pm

As promised: 

The original idea was to keep today simple so that I can be relaxed for my civil service exam tomorrow morning. That never happens so while I was removing the rear axle shafts today so that I could remove the backing plates one of the shaft c clips fell into the housing. The little slot under the pinion gear is just and I mean JUST big enough for the clip to slide in there. Shot in there like a rocket. Felt like I was playing a slot machine. So I continued on with my work and just decided to get it out later in the day. 

After a I removed the sway bar and the backing plates I decided to remove the carrier assembly to reduce weight and provide more room to look around in the housing. 



If I replace the shims and bearings in their exact original positions do I need to dick around with backlash and all that?

Axle shafts out. 



Most of the necessary hardware removed. 



And this bastard. Man oh man I'm definitely breaking out the angle grinder for this. Not even going to try and remove it. The retaining nut on the opposite side basically turned to powder when I touched it. 

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Post  Mark on 6/15/2013, 6:04 am

Back lash will be fine, just install shims on the same same side they came from.
Make sure to replace the axle seals.
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Post  kvesi122 on 6/15/2013, 9:01 am

Awesome! Thanks for the quick reply. I'll throw the carrier back in today and start wire wheeling the outside of the axle.
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Post  Ryan McKee on 6/15/2013, 11:50 am

To reply to your JF PM... I've still got the skid somewhere. Not sure where it is currently but I can look next time I am in town.  When you asked I really had to think about where it was..... guess I've got too much shit lying around.

Standby for a location.

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Post  kvesi122 on 6/15/2013, 2:50 pm

If it's not rusted through I need a replacement haha. Let me know how much you want for it when you find it.
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Post  Ryan McKee on 6/15/2013, 2:53 pm

It's solid.  It's taken a beating over the years, but there are no weak points.

And don't even kid... it's yours if you need it haha. I'd never dream of asking for money for it.

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Post  kvesi122 on 6/16/2013, 10:37 am

I appreciate your generosity but I wouldn't accept it without paying you cash.
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