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all over the road
So tranny is in back up and running but she's all over the road not sure if it's ball joints, , tires, or something in the steering. Anyone have this issue. Im going to the shop to hopefully find the answer to this problem.
bigmike- Mall Crawler
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Re: all over the road
Could be so many things...best to start narrowing it down by checking stuff you can do in the driveway in a couple minutes with someone doing a steering test. I would check for excessive play in the tie rod/draglink/control arm bushings/trackbar then jack the wheels up and check the ball joints
Then I'd check the toe-in to make sure you're alignment is okay (do you have adj control arms?). Followed by getting my tires balanced because that's the first thing that should cost money to do. I had a wandering that got better after I balanced my tires, it was still slightly there after the balancing so I made sure my toe-in was exactly 1/16 and it drives straight as an arrow now
Was anything recently done to the jeep besides rebuild of tranny?
Then I'd check the toe-in to make sure you're alignment is okay (do you have adj control arms?). Followed by getting my tires balanced because that's the first thing that should cost money to do. I had a wandering that got better after I balanced my tires, it was still slightly there after the balancing so I made sure my toe-in was exactly 1/16 and it drives straight as an arrow now
Was anything recently done to the jeep besides rebuild of tranny?
Tonellin- Rausch Creek
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Re: all over the road
Mike, was it ok before the surgery?
Body lifts can/does affect the upper steering shaft joint angle, especially if shaft jionts are NG.
Happened to me when I put mine in.
The shafts were NG...took BL out and got 2 borgeson steering shafts. HAPPY EVER SINCE.
Ball joints don't just wear out while the transmission is being worked on, nor does the toe change.
WHAT ELSE DID YOU DO TO IT?
Body lifts can/does affect the upper steering shaft joint angle, especially if shaft jionts are NG.
Happened to me when I put mine in.
The shafts were NG...took BL out and got 2 borgeson steering shafts. HAPPY EVER SINCE.
Ball joints don't just wear out while the transmission is being worked on, nor does the toe change.
WHAT ELSE DID YOU DO TO IT?
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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all over the road
So after being at the shop jacked it up. I have a steering box issue but I installed it 2 years ago. My u joints on the axles are on thier way out. I replaced passenger side ball joints last winter but not the driver side. There is alot of play in the wheel almost a quarter turn. It had play in it before the work maybe I didn't notice how much. I NEED A NEW RIG OR HIT THE LOTTERY IT NEVER ENDS
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bigmike- Mall Crawler
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Re: all over the road
Mines a little drifty but I assume its the caster angle because the LCAs are non-adjustable and the PO added what I believe are 2" spacers to the 4.5" RC lift. I can spin the wheel from lock to lock with one finger, and it doesn't exactly self center like you'd expect.
Jake- Rausch Creek
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Re: all over the road
Why do you say that you have a steering box issue?
Common on those is the pitman arm to steering box nut loosening up. Check it.
Check the u joints on the steering shafts and the lower shaft to frame mounting bracket bushing.
Check The pinch bolt at steering box to lower shaft and at the steering column to upper shaft under the dash.
Lower tack bar mounting bolt loose?
Steering box NG = install a durango box, cheap, bigger and beefier.
Check stuff like that, If even only for peace of mind knowing that you checked it.
Common on those is the pitman arm to steering box nut loosening up. Check it.
Check the u joints on the steering shafts and the lower shaft to frame mounting bracket bushing.
Check The pinch bolt at steering box to lower shaft and at the steering column to upper shaft under the dash.
Lower tack bar mounting bolt loose?
Steering box NG = install a durango box, cheap, bigger and beefier.
Check stuff like that, If even only for peace of mind knowing that you checked it.
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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all over the road
Thanks markmi definitely will you just gave me the best steering check list ever I didnt check half that stuff you just might have saved me a bunch of money without switching to geico.
bigmike- Mall Crawler
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Re: all over the road
Hopefully something simple, but then again it's a Jeep, never mind the fact that it's a modified Jeep on top of that.
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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all over the road
Ding! Ding! We got a winner. It's the front trac bar bushing is shot. I mean 260000 miles on it would do it im sure. It will be delivered in a couple hours and soon find out if this is the only issue which im hoping for.thanks marknfor the mini steering checklist.
bigmike- Mall Crawler
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Re: all over the road
That's great, at least you found something instead of scratching your head going WTF is wrong with it
Once you get the track bar squared away check the regular wear componrnts like Ball joints, wheel bearing/hubs, Tie rods etc.
The rear track bar bolts and bushings too, that can mess with the handling.
Once you get the track bar squared away check the regular wear componrnts like Ball joints, wheel bearing/hubs, Tie rods etc.
The rear track bar bolts and bushings too, that can mess with the handling.
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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Re: all over the road
Lol, you mean what I did for a year and a half, and a few thousand dollars?!Mark wrote:That's great, at least you found something instead of scratching your head going WTF is wrong with it
Re: all over the road
Yeah I hear that, But that's all behind you now!,,, ISN'T IT:cheers:
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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all over the road
So I came to the conclusion that instead of the bushing swap I got a whole new stock track bar so much easier this way. That bushing wasn't coming out without taking the whole bar out. Since the whole thing came out in with the new
bigmike- Mall Crawler
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Re: all over the road
With 260k on the OE track bar, a new track bar should tighten up the steering a bit.
Mark- Rubicon Trail
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